“As per old astronomy and also astrology, Mars (like the Moon) also came out of this Earth,” according to Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar. “But it didn’t move around the Earth as its satellite. It started moving around the sun and became a planet.” This comment came in a 1986 discourse “The poles shift their respective positions” that is newly transcribed and is printed below. Here’s another excerpt: “Take the case of our poles. The poles may shift their positions. In the past, such a shifting took place several times, in the annals of this planet also, and also in the history of so many other planets.” “And some are of the opinion that as a result of this, a climbing out a moon from the Earth’s lithospherical body, the Pacific Ocean was created.” P. R. Sarkar (1921-1990) was a spiritual guru, social philosopher and founder of the international socio-spiritual movement Ananda Marga – Richard Gauthier, St. George, Utah, USA, October 18, 2022.
The subject of today’s discourse is, “The Poles Shift Their Respective Positions.” Cardinal human principles are almost unchangeable. I say almost unchangeable because they always maintain a tactual relationship with cosmological order. And so the cardinal human principles or cardinal points of humanities don’t undergo any change or physical metamorphosis. But this is not the case with the physical world. In the realm of physicality, in the arena of physical emanations, such a thing may take place, and in the past took place several times in the history of this planet Earth, and also in the history of so many other planets, stars, satellites, nebulae, etcetera. In the physical sphere, change is the order of existence. In the psychic sphere there is change in the collective structure. But because that change maintains a link with the cosmological order, with cosmic conation, that’s right, it is not so prominent as that of physical sphere.
Take the case of our poles. The poles may shift their positions. In the past, such a shifting took place several times, in the annals of this planet also, and also in the history of so many other planets. As a result of this shifting, as a result of this change, if you say that the satellite moves in and out of this Earth when it was, its outer crust, within lithospherical order, was not so solid as it is now. And some are of the opinion that as a result of this, a climbing out a moon from the Earth’s lithospherical body, the Pacific Ocean was created. As per old astronomy and also astrology, Mars also came out of this Earth. But it didn’t move around the Earth as its satellite. It started moving around the sun and became a planet. And that’s why a name of Mars is Kuja in Sanskrit. Kuja. Shani raja Kuja mantrii (Saturn is the king, Mars is the minister). Kuja. Ku means Earth. Ja mean born out of Ku. So in physical sphere such a change took place in the past and will take place in future.
The poles shift their positions. Now, as a result of this shifting, in the past so many times, the time taken by the Earth in moving round itself varied. And also the time taken by the Earth in moving round the sun — that is, its year — also changed. Day and night jointly were not of 24 hours, and the year was not of 365/366 days. As a result of this change, this change in polar positions, seasonal order also changed and its relationship with months varied so many times. And the order of our calendar, system of our calendar, had to be changed in the past. If the poles change their position, the time taken by the Earth round itself will certainly be either lessened or increased. And similarly, the time take by the Earth in moving round the sun will either increase or decrease. And perhaps you have marked nowadays, sometimes we see that the seasonal order is not maintaining proper adjustment with months. This shows that shifting is taking place fast. Now, as a result of this change, not only the adjustment between months and seasons will be lost, but the environmental order and also the ecological order of the Earth will be disrupted. And as a result of this disruption, there must be physical and biological changes in the structure of all living bodies, all living creatures, including plants. Plants of Tertiary age could not be found in Creterian (Cretacious) Age. The secretory plants and also animals of Creterian (Cretacious) Age could not be found in later ages, the Pliocene, Miocene, Oligocene, Mesozoic and Cenozoic ages, because they also, their existence, their births and deaths also depend on environmental order and also ecological adjustment, ecological balance. And as a result of change of position of the poles, some people say that in eastern hemisphere, the northern pole is moving from north to south and in western hemisphere, the southern pole moves from south to north. And it cannot be assured that their relative distance will remain unchanged. So we should be prepared for the future. We should be prepared for the resultant of this change or these changes in polar position, in environmental order and also in ecological structure.
As a result of this change, the magnetic structure of this Earth, and as a result of which other planets and satellites of this solar system will also to undergo certain remarkable metamorphosis. And if the magnetic order is disrupted, then certainly there will be certain remarkable changes and remarkable metamorphoses in the electromagnetic vibrations of this Earth and also of the entire solar system. This type of changing electromagnetic vibrations, human thought waves will certainly be affected.
Our progress in the arena of science depends much on our progress, our knowledge in electromagnetic waves, electromagnetic emanations. So our progress both in the field of humanities and science will suffer much, or rather may be assailed much as a result of this change. We should be ready for such a change, and that change may take place in very near future.
You know, human existence is not only an existence of physicality, an existence in physical structure. It is a mesh of vibrations of so many wavelengths. So if the physical waves change, if the climatic conditions undergo a certain gigantic metamorphosis, certainly the emanations and perceptions of nerve cells and nerve fibers will be changed, will be disrupted. It may be for the good, it may be for the bad, but change is a must. In case of such a change in physical order and also in physico-psycho order, the change is sure to take place in the realm of spirituality. We hope the movement… as we know, the movement of humanity, movement of each and every living being, is from matter to consciousness, is from extrovert to introvert. So the thought waves of human beings will be more of spiritual nature than they are at present. That is, humanities in that developed condition will be more spiritual-minded than they are, what they are at present.
The Cosmic Entity, the Supreme Cognitive Faculty, never stops His emanations in physical, metaphysical, supraphysical and spiritual strata. And in case of microcosm, if the change is neurological as a result of physical change, then certainly the nerve cells, the nerve fibers, if the nerve cells and higher nerve fiber do in some other way than what they are doing at present, then the thought waves of the Great, thought waves of the Supreme Cognitive Faculty, is sure to undergo some changing, some transmutation when it passes through unit human structure. And it is expected that under such circumstances, the progress of human beings in the realm of introvert will be more accelerated than what they do at present. And if the poles in a particular small planet, like the Earth, shift their respective positions, it may be beneficial to human beings or it may not be beneficial to human beings, but it is sure that the thought waves of the Supreme will do its own duty under changed circumstances. Here, humanities will be more meditative and will accept the Parama Puruśa, the Cognitive, Cosmic Cognitive Faculty, as its object of ideation in a better way and in a more scientific style. One must not think that anything is fixed or stationary in this universe. Every body moves – certainly the poles move – and they have already started their function of shifting their respective positions. And you see, as a result of such a change, and if the change takes place very fast, then there may come another ice-age here in this Earth. And the pre-condition and post-condition of the ice-age may have a big gap – that means pre-age and post-age will have a long gap between them. But we have much expectation and hope from human intellect; and we hope, if a catastrophe comes, human intellect will be able to overcome such a catastrophe or arrange for shifting the population to some other planet having a suitable environmental condition and better ecological order. Let humanity rise, and let this development of humanity be more and more spiritually-oriented.
–31 May 1986, Kolkata
Comment: Preliminary scientific evidence suggesting that Mars may have been born from the Earth
Could the planet Mars have been born from the Earth? The above discourse suggests that both the births of both the Moon and Mars were associated with a shifting, perhaps a reversal, of the Earth’s poles. Mars has only 11% of the Earth’s mass, while the Moon’s mass is only 1.2% of the Earth’s mass. Earth’s average density is higher than that of Mars – 5.514 g/cm3 compared to 3.93 g/cm3 (or 71% of Earth’s density). This indicates that Mars’ core region contains more of lighter elements than Earth’s core. This is consistent with the material of Mars being formed from material near to the surface of the Earth, since this material would have been less dense that the material composing the core of the early Earth.
The current orbit of Mars is an ellipse with an eccentricity of .0934 while the current orbit of the Earth is an ellipse with an eccentricity of 0.0167. So the eccentricity of the orbit of Mars is about 5.6 times the eccentricity of the orbit of Earth. Currently the minimum distance between Mars and the Earth in their two orbits is 33.9 million miles. The much larger eccentricity of Mars’ orbit compared to Earth’s orbit would seem to be consistent with Mars being born from the Earth and then going away from the Earth into a separate, more eccentric orbit around the sun. The eccentricities of planetary orbits evolve in time due to the gravitational influences of other planets.
As P.R. Sarkar’s proposal is relatively new, it will be interesting to learn what further evidence there is that supports or opposes the idea the Mars was born from the Earth.
This new transcription of “The poles shift their respective positions” was made by me in June, 2022 from an audio recording of the discourse given by P. R. Sarkar on 31 May 1986. In the previous transcription of this discourse (see references), P. R. Sarkar’s sentence “It (Mars) started moving around the sun and became a planet” was inadvertently left out of that transcription.
P. R. Sarkar, “The poles shift their respective positions”, http://proutglobe.org/2011/05/the-poles-shift-their-respective-positions/ and in A Few Problems Solved, Part 7, https://anandamargabooks.com/books/a-few-problems-solved-series/.
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October 18, 2022